On the other hand, he is the military commander and it would be nice to see him get some flak for making stupid decisions. And he certainly makes his share. Yeah, just, Weir let him get away with shit because she didn't want to get him in trouble (think of the Cheya ep where she let him go because she knew she couldn't stop him and didn't want to have him break a direct order).
Which oooh, brings up a side rant. Every time Weir took John down a step, she always did it in private; behind closed doors. I assume she did this because as military head he needed the respect of his people and she didn't want to upset that. But in Trinity, after Doranda, we see Weir screaming at Rodney in the middle of the gate room where everyone can hear. I would think that respect for Rodney would be just as important. I mean, he's the one saving people's asses at the end of most days. What a double standard.
The way John amps Rodney up and stresses him out to solve a crisis has always niggled at me, but I think it's actually the larger issue you mentioned that's at the center of it all. It was fun in Inferno when John was being all obvious about it, but it's stopped being funny. There's the typical Rodney bluster, but I think Rodney had gotten to a stage in his life where he's self confident enough to not pull those kinds of stunts in an emergency anymore. And while I would kind of like to see an ep like I described, where Rodney says he can't do something, no one believes him, but it turns out he's right, I'm also kind of afraid of such an episode because of how the others, specifically John would react. If John *still* hasn't gotten over Trinity, then how would he recover from something like that? It makes me feel sad for Rodney, because things like this just kind of drill home the fact that he's loved for his brain. I would like to think his friends like him for more than that, but sometimes their actions? don't say that. If something like that hypothetical episode ever happened, I would *love* to see something like Rodney being all upset about letting everyone down, but everyone coming around him to show that it doesn't matter.
This is my favorite part of fandom discussion, when someone else is able to crystallize something I might have been thinking but was unable to put in words Yeah, this whole thing has had me thinking about the show way more than I normally do, and it's nice to finally clarify some of the things I'd felt but hadn't taken the time to really think about. :) Plus I'm having a lot of fun.
The other thing that's always bothered be about that dynamic is that John is sort of rough with Rodney emotionally. Yeah, which is what kind of makes me think that he only likes Rodney for his brain. I mean there's so much canon that would point to him liking Rodney more than that, but... there's still that niggling bit of doubt. I think it's especially cruel, since it's pretty obvious to anyone who looks that Rodney isn't the most emotionally stable person. As I once read someone saying, he's got a superiority complex a mile wide to hide his inferiority complex. Rodney kind of hero worships John as, like, an older brother. He's totally changed who he is, and while I think he likes who he is more now, I have no doubt that a lot of those changes were done so he could better fit John's ideal of a good friend.
Now that we've seen he's capable of defying John, there's no telling what he might do if he feels the situation warrants it. Oh! If only the writers would *do* anything with it! I suppose that's what fanfic is for....
I'd love to see an evil!Rodney episode just for kicks Yeah, something like The Long Goodbye, where for an episode Rodney goes evil :P
It makes me wonder what JF really thinks about Sheppard. For sure, because I don't know if the lines on their own would really make John sound as crazy. It's definitely in the actions and the hard glint in his eyes.
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Yeah, just, Weir let him get away with shit because she didn't want to get him in trouble (think of the Cheya ep where she let him go because she knew she couldn't stop him and didn't want to have him break a direct order).
Which oooh, brings up a side rant. Every time Weir took John down a step, she always did it in private; behind closed doors. I assume she did this because as military head he needed the respect of his people and she didn't want to upset that. But in Trinity, after Doranda, we see Weir screaming at Rodney in the middle of the gate room where everyone can hear. I would think that respect for Rodney would be just as important. I mean, he's the one saving people's asses at the end of most days. What a double standard.
The way John amps Rodney up and stresses him out to solve a crisis has always niggled at me, but I think it's actually the larger issue you mentioned that's at the center of it all.
It was fun in Inferno when John was being all obvious about it, but it's stopped being funny. There's the typical Rodney bluster, but I think Rodney had gotten to a stage in his life where he's self confident enough to not pull those kinds of stunts in an emergency anymore.
And while I would kind of like to see an ep like I described, where Rodney says he can't do something, no one believes him, but it turns out he's right, I'm also kind of afraid of such an episode because of how the others, specifically John would react. If John *still* hasn't gotten over Trinity, then how would he recover from something like that? It makes me feel sad for Rodney, because things like this just kind of drill home the fact that he's loved for his brain. I would like to think his friends like him for more than that, but sometimes their actions? don't say that. If something like that hypothetical episode ever happened, I would *love* to see something like Rodney being all upset about letting everyone down, but everyone coming around him to show that it doesn't matter.
This is my favorite part of fandom discussion, when someone else is able to crystallize something I might have been thinking but was unable to put in words
Yeah, this whole thing has had me thinking about the show way more than I normally do, and it's nice to finally clarify some of the things I'd felt but hadn't taken the time to really think about. :) Plus I'm having a lot of fun.
The other thing that's always bothered be about that dynamic is that John is sort of rough with Rodney emotionally.
Yeah, which is what kind of makes me think that he only likes Rodney for his brain. I mean there's so much canon that would point to him liking Rodney more than that, but... there's still that niggling bit of doubt.
I think it's especially cruel, since it's pretty obvious to anyone who looks that Rodney isn't the most emotionally stable person. As I once read someone saying, he's got a superiority complex a mile wide to hide his inferiority complex. Rodney kind of hero worships John as, like, an older brother. He's totally changed who he is, and while I think he likes who he is more now, I have no doubt that a lot of those changes were done so he could better fit John's ideal of a good friend.
Now that we've seen he's capable of defying John, there's no telling what he might do if he feels the situation warrants it.
Oh! If only the writers would *do* anything with it! I suppose that's what fanfic is for....
I'd love to see an evil!Rodney episode just for kicks
Yeah, something like The Long Goodbye, where for an episode Rodney goes evil :P
It makes me wonder what JF really thinks about Sheppard.
For sure, because I don't know if the lines on their own would really make John sound as crazy. It's definitely in the actions and the hard glint in his eyes.