My joy is like the kiss of death for a fandom, I swear I think part of it can be not just the show, but how fandom has you precieve the show. It's a very different experience to watch a show all at once as opposed to watching it ep by ep, and analysing it the way fandom does. While I did it a bit last season, this is the first SGA season where I'm really reading all the meta and talking about what happened. Had I just watched the ep, I would have been slightly annoyed at how John acted, but still loved the episode. But since I spent so much time analysing what bothered me about Sheppards behaviour, it now seems so much worse. Same with Doppleganger, I could have just shrugged it off as not the best ep out there, but because everyone is going "OMG SUCH AN AWESOME EP!!!11!!!1" I'm getting annoyed.
I've been on tenterhooks waiting for S4, afraid of the new dynamic more than anything...because the one thing that pulverized my heart and love for a show is fucking around with the characters I love most... I know! I spent a lot of this summer angsting over the changes. And really? TPTB were stupid to do so many at once, because there are people who *loved* the characters that left. As slashers, we don't pay that much attention to Weir, but she's in a *lot* of the het pairings out there. I mean how would you feel as a John/Elizabeth shipper to lose half your ship? Compounded with losing loved characters, they also immediately bring in their replacements. That makes for *huge* cast changes and totally throws off the dynamic that the show had been working with.
and fucking around with Rodney is a surefire way of killing the squee. Granted, Rodney is human and he's going to make mistakes, but he's already paid for his hubris in Trinity. It's not necessary to do it again, much less "a lot." Yeah, just stay away from my Rodney! *hold him protectively* On the one hand though, I've noticed that John in particular, keeps pushing Rodney too far. It was really apperant in Adrift and Lifeline, but it's been there since The Return II, or even so far back as Inferno and Condemned. You know where Rodney says he can't do something, and John doesn't beleive him and rides Rodney until it's done. I was saying to paradise_city a while back that it's be interesting to see that not work. With Trinity it was so much easier to blame Rodney because he spent the entire time going "I can do it!" But what if Rodney fails during a time where he spends the entire time going "I *can't* do it" You know that John wouldn't believe him, and I think he'd feel at least let down in Rodney, if not outright disappointment. Actually I think the fall out from such a thing could be as bad, if not worse, as the fall out from Trinity. And while it would be a bit hard to watch Woobie!Rodney, I think it'd still be a really neat storyline. Although, I have a feeling that fanfic writers would do a better job of it than the show writers, they'd probably have Carter come in and save the day while just making Rodney look stupid :(
I think he's much like my (very beloved) Gale, in that he has an admittedly limited range. Oh Gale. Yes, as an actor, I think it takes him a while to get the feel of his character. Watching him in, say, the L&O SVU ep, he kind of came off as oily, and fake. Even in the early seasons of QaF he occasionally would catch me, with a bit of bad acting. In fact those little slip ups held me back for a while from *loving* him. Then season 3 hit, and he was just so *awesome* in acting all woobie and hurt, that I completely forgot about it all.
That's actually a pretty good comparison actually. I mentioned, again, to paradise_city that one of the things that makes me dislike John is how he sometimes seems to act out of character. Like when he completely loses his shit. Yet, Don, from Numb3rs does that often and I forgive him for it. I think it might be a combination of the two factors, the OOCness and the acting range that holds John/Joe back for me. Also, I don't find him overly hot, which I think really affects things, I'm not distracted by the prettiness when his acting/character aren't up to standards :P
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My joy is like the kiss of death for a fandom, I swear
I think part of it can be not just the show, but how fandom has you precieve the show. It's a very different experience to watch a show all at once as opposed to watching it ep by ep, and analysing it the way fandom does. While I did it a bit last season, this is the first SGA season where I'm really reading all the meta and talking about what happened. Had I just watched the ep, I would have been slightly annoyed at how John acted, but still loved the episode. But since I spent so much time analysing what bothered me about Sheppards behaviour, it now seems so much worse. Same with Doppleganger, I could have just shrugged it off as not the best ep out there, but because everyone is going "OMG SUCH AN AWESOME EP!!!11!!!1" I'm getting annoyed.
I've been on tenterhooks waiting for S4, afraid of the new dynamic more than anything...because the one thing that pulverized my heart and love for a show is fucking around with the characters I love most...
I know! I spent a lot of this summer angsting over the changes. And really? TPTB were stupid to do so many at once, because there are people who *loved* the characters that left. As slashers, we don't pay that much attention to Weir, but she's in a *lot* of the het pairings out there. I mean how would you feel as a John/Elizabeth shipper to lose half your ship? Compounded with losing loved characters, they also immediately bring in their replacements. That makes for *huge* cast changes and totally throws off the dynamic that the show had been working with.
and fucking around with Rodney is a surefire way of killing the squee. Granted, Rodney is human and he's going to make mistakes, but he's already paid for his hubris in Trinity. It's not necessary to do it again, much less "a lot."
Yeah, just stay away from my Rodney! *hold him protectively* On the one hand though, I've noticed that John in particular, keeps pushing Rodney too far. It was really apperant in Adrift and Lifeline, but it's been there since The Return II, or even so far back as Inferno and Condemned. You know where Rodney says he can't do something, and John doesn't beleive him and rides Rodney until it's done. I was saying to
I think he's much like my (very beloved) Gale, in that he has an admittedly limited range.
Oh Gale. Yes, as an actor, I think it takes him a while to get the feel of his character. Watching him in, say, the L&O SVU ep, he kind of came off as oily, and fake. Even in the early seasons of QaF he occasionally would catch me, with a bit of bad acting. In fact those little slip ups held me back for a while from *loving* him. Then season 3 hit, and he was just so *awesome* in acting all woobie and hurt, that I completely forgot about it all.
That's actually a pretty good comparison actually. I mentioned, again, to