I hope you don't mind me dropping in on the conversation, but it popped up in a Google blog alert I have set up for The Hewlett and I thought this was an interesting idea. Wow, thats' neat, and by all means, jump right in. I love having these kinds of discussions :)
I can go along with the writers wanting to show Rodney getting something wrong and getting taken down a peg or two, but... no one else has. Except, others have screwed up. John woke all the wraith up, Carson killed off half a planet, Sam almost had an entire world die when her program put them through a sun; she blew up a sun. The difference between all those screw ups, and Trinity, as you said is that afterwards, they all got pats on the shoulders and a "It's not your fault". Mean while Rodney got yelled at by Elizabeth, in the gate room, where everyone could see and hear. And doesn't that say something? Whenever John does something to screw up, Elizabeth has always taken him aside and given him a firm talking to. But Rodney? Gets a public taking down. Another thing that bothered me is that from all accounts the solar system was uninhabited. So yeah, John and Rodney may have died, but they almost die every episode. While things like waking the Wraith, and Hoff *have* killed people.
You're probably right there. I personally am not watching the season, though I'm still lurking around in fandom Oh, I don't think I have that kind of self control. Actually, I'd probably be happier if I stopped reading peoples discussions than if I stopped watching the show, sinceI can often shrug off what's on the show, but when I see people reacting like "OMG what a GREAT ep" and I hated it; that annoys me more.
I just couldn't go through another show becoming centered on Sam Carter again The opening two parter was easy on the Sam, and I was feeling a little optimistic, but seeing Doppleganger... it didn't have a *ton* of Sam, probably as much as they would have had of Elizabeth, but it just didn't feel right to me. I found myself missing Weir, which is a bit weird, since I didn't think I would miss her. What I actually found much more aggravating though, was Keller. Carson was the first character on the show that I fell in love with (yes, even before I fell in love with McKay). So, I really miss Carson, and seeing Keller worked into an episode, simply because it's Jewel Saite, pisses me off. Especially since Keller as a character is so flat and lacking in personality. Carson was such an emotional character, and I know that I would have like Doppleganger a lot more if he'd have been in it. It also got me, because in the closing scene of Doppleganger, it showed the "team" in the mess not being able to sleep, and Carter and Keller were both there. That felt weird to me, because Keller and Carter are now close friends with the team? They hardly know each other. Carter says she can't stand Rodney. What? And you *know* that had the episode had Weir and Carson instead, even though they *were* closer friends, they probably wouldn't have included them in that parting shot.
But it's been interesting to see most (slash) fans simply talking around her instead of about her. Well, as I said in the two part opener, she was hardly in it, and she barely interacted with the Atlantis people, she more had her own story line off to the side. A lot of fans still haven't seen Doppleganger (it doesn't air for another two weeks, and hell, Lifeline just aired last night). Still in Doppleganger she had a part much like Weir would have, so not that comment worthy, and, there was quite a bit of McSheppiness in the episode, so I can see people getting distracted. :P Time will have to tell.
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Wow, thats' neat, and by all means, jump right in. I love having these kinds of discussions :)
I can go along with the writers wanting to show Rodney getting something wrong and getting taken down a peg or two, but... no one else has.
Except, others have screwed up. John woke all the wraith up, Carson killed off half a planet, Sam almost had an entire world die when her program put them through a sun; she blew up a sun. The difference between all those screw ups, and Trinity, as you said is that afterwards, they all got pats on the shoulders and a "It's not your fault".
Mean while Rodney got yelled at by Elizabeth, in the gate room, where everyone could see and hear. And doesn't that say something? Whenever John does something to screw up, Elizabeth has always taken him aside and given him a firm talking to. But Rodney? Gets a public taking down.
Another thing that bothered me is that from all accounts the solar system was uninhabited. So yeah, John and Rodney may have died, but they almost die every episode. While things like waking the Wraith, and Hoff *have* killed people.
You're probably right there. I personally am not watching the season, though I'm still lurking around in fandom
Oh, I don't think I have that kind of self control. Actually, I'd probably be happier if I stopped reading peoples discussions than if I stopped watching the show, sinceI can often shrug off what's on the show, but when I see people reacting like "OMG what a GREAT ep" and I hated it; that annoys me more.
I just couldn't go through another show becoming centered on Sam Carter again
The opening two parter was easy on the Sam, and I was feeling a little optimistic, but seeing Doppleganger... it didn't have a *ton* of Sam, probably as much as they would have had of Elizabeth, but it just didn't feel right to me. I found myself missing Weir, which is a bit weird, since I didn't think I would miss her.
What I actually found much more aggravating though, was Keller. Carson was the first character on the show that I fell in love with (yes, even before I fell in love with McKay). So, I really miss Carson, and seeing Keller worked into an episode, simply because it's Jewel Saite, pisses me off. Especially since Keller as a character is so flat and lacking in personality. Carson was such an emotional character, and I know that I would have like Doppleganger a lot more if he'd have been in it.
It also got me, because in the closing scene of Doppleganger, it showed the "team" in the mess not being able to sleep, and Carter and Keller were both there. That felt weird to me, because Keller and Carter are now close friends with the team? They hardly know each other. Carter says she can't stand Rodney. What? And you *know* that had the episode had Weir and Carson instead, even though they *were* closer friends, they probably wouldn't have included them in that parting shot.
But it's been interesting to see most (slash) fans simply talking around her instead of about her.
Well, as I said in the two part opener, she was hardly in it, and she barely interacted with the Atlantis people, she more had her own story line off to the side.
A lot of fans still haven't seen Doppleganger (it doesn't air for another two weeks, and hell, Lifeline just aired last night). Still in Doppleganger she had a part much like Weir would have, so not that comment worthy, and, there was quite a bit of McSheppiness in the episode, so I can see people getting distracted. :P Time will have to tell.