I'm also afraid of how she's going to effect Atlantis' current dynamic. I mean, she's not a civilian, so she's going to be the highest ranking military officer (if you'll notice she's now a full Lieutenant, John commented on it at the end of 402), and that means John's being demoted. And even if he stays as the guy who runs the military, he's never going to have the authority he once had, since Weir had to defer to him during military emergencies, Carter won't have to though.
Carter is also going to be in charge of the scientists, which is Rodney's territory, and we all know he's an idiot around her. How the hell is Carter coming going to effect Rodney? Is he suddenly going to be demoted to that guy that that's smart but not smart enough for Carter? Is she suddenly going to be stepping in and messing with how Rodney has things set up?
When I first heard about all the cast changes, I was worried, because, as I said, I didn't trust the writers, and I was afraid that it wasn't going to be *my* Atlantis come season 4. It would be Atlantis SG-1 or some such crap. Personally, I was really disappointed when Atlantis' isolation from earth didn't last a whole season. I really wanted Atlantis to be completely separate from SG-1.
Seeing the first two episodes, has at least allowed me to give the writers a chance to show me that they aren't going to fuck this up.
Word on the Weir/everyone bit, as well. I know! I like to ship Ronon/Weir, and when he went into visit her and leaned down, I almost *died* since I thought he was going to kiss her. And how he kept watching over her? *love*
I've always enjoyed a bit of Weir/Sheppard, so it was really touching to see John getting emotional over her situation and struggling with trying to keep cool. In that moment, I totally saw how people could ship the two (it's not a ship I can easily believe, if only because of their positions) but John kept fucking up that idea later in the show when he's like "Kill her!" and not even willing to *try* to save her; to take a chance. Actually Sheppard was the biggest issue I had with these eps.
Speaking of Sheppard, he was did have a bit of a bug up his butt, didn't he? So much *yes*. He was totally power tripping, and getting in the *way*. I didn't like it. For a minute there, when Rodney refused him, I though he might hit him, or go in and kill Elizabeth himself. All those fics where John goes crazy? Moments like that are what inspire such fics.
and then have them apologize so quickly (which was interesting; I'm still not sure what I think about that). Yeah, I'm not sure either. I mean, really? I think it was more John who should have been apologizing, actions wise. He had no knowledge of what the situation was. Rodney did. In his expert opinion the risk was ok. John came in throwing his weight around when he shouldn't have. On the other hand, Rodney did concede leadership to John earlier in the show, and they were in a tight situation that really required a strong chain of command, and Rodney broke that.
Also, how sincere did that apology sound? "We have to work together so... so.. so. I'm sorry"
I'm hoping we'll see some fallout from John rushing in to take control. Well, with Carter taking over,I'm sure there will be some. But I'd be way more interested to see the fall out between him and Rodney because of it. I mean, he totally disregarded Rodney, which isn't good leadership. It kind of felt like that time shortly after Trinity, where Sheppard didn't trust McKay. But, knowing the writers and their history of emotional continuity... I won't hold my breath.
Right, sorry -- apparently when it comes to commenting with you, I can blab forever Umm, yeah. It's obviously all you :P Seriously though, blab all you want, I'm having tons of fun :D
To answer your question, it was the Rodney calling John by his name moment I was referring to. That seems to be a huge issue with some of the fangirls, so I'm sure they'll appreciate it. Ahh, I rewatched 320 before watching the new eps, and totally had the scene in my head of just before John went to fly the city, but then realized that it was the wrong episode, and couldn't think of anything else.
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I'm also afraid of how she's going to effect Atlantis' current dynamic. I mean, she's not a civilian, so she's going to be the highest ranking military officer (if you'll notice she's now a full Lieutenant, John commented on it at the end of 402), and that means John's being demoted. And even if he stays as the guy who runs the military, he's never going to have the authority he once had, since Weir had to defer to him during military emergencies, Carter won't have to though.
Carter is also going to be in charge of the scientists, which is Rodney's territory, and we all know he's an idiot around her. How the hell is Carter coming going to effect Rodney? Is he suddenly going to be demoted to that guy that that's smart but not smart enough for Carter? Is she suddenly going to be stepping in and messing with how Rodney has things set up?
When I first heard about all the cast changes, I was worried, because, as I said, I didn't trust the writers, and I was afraid that it wasn't going to be *my* Atlantis come season 4. It would be Atlantis SG-1 or some such crap. Personally, I was really disappointed when Atlantis' isolation from earth didn't last a whole season. I really wanted Atlantis to be completely separate from SG-1.
Seeing the first two episodes, has at least allowed me to give the writers a chance to show me that they aren't going to fuck this up.
Word on the Weir/everyone bit, as well.
I know! I like to ship Ronon/Weir, and when he went into visit her and leaned down, I almost *died* since I thought he was going to kiss her. And how he kept watching over her? *love*
I've always enjoyed a bit of Weir/Sheppard, so it was really touching to see John getting emotional over her situation and struggling with trying to keep cool.
In that moment, I totally saw how people could ship the two (it's not a ship I can easily believe, if only because of their positions) but John kept fucking up that idea later in the show when he's like "Kill her!" and not even willing to *try* to save her; to take a chance. Actually Sheppard was the biggest issue I had with these eps.
Speaking of Sheppard, he was did have a bit of a bug up his butt, didn't he?
So much *yes*. He was totally power tripping, and getting in the *way*. I didn't like it. For a minute there, when Rodney refused him, I though he might hit him, or go in and kill Elizabeth himself. All those fics where John goes crazy? Moments like that are what inspire such fics.
and then have them apologize so quickly (which was interesting; I'm still not sure what I think about that).
Yeah, I'm not sure either. I mean, really? I think it was more John who should have been apologizing, actions wise. He had no knowledge of what the situation was. Rodney did. In his expert opinion the risk was ok. John came in throwing his weight around when he shouldn't have.
On the other hand, Rodney did concede leadership to John earlier in the show, and they were in a tight situation that really required a strong chain of command, and Rodney broke that.
Also, how sincere did that apology sound? "We have to work together so... so.. so. I'm sorry"
I'm hoping we'll see some fallout from John rushing in to take control.
Well, with Carter taking over,I'm sure there will be some. But I'd be way more interested to see the fall out between him and Rodney because of it. I mean, he totally disregarded Rodney, which isn't good leadership. It kind of felt like that time shortly after Trinity, where Sheppard didn't trust McKay.
But, knowing the writers and their history of emotional continuity... I won't hold my breath.
Right, sorry -- apparently when it comes to commenting with you, I can blab forever
Umm, yeah. It's obviously all you :P
Seriously though, blab all you want, I'm having tons of fun :D
To answer your question, it was the Rodney calling John by his name moment I was referring to. That seems to be a huge issue with some of the fangirls, so I'm sure they'll appreciate it.
Ahh, I rewatched 320 before watching the new eps, and totally had the scene in my head of just before John went to fly the city, but then realized that it was the wrong episode, and couldn't think of anything else.