I knew about the already existing wiki, and I can't say I've found it particularly useful/interesting Well, to be fair, a wiki is only as good as what it's members put into it. If it was created by a close group of due South, SPN, and HP fans, then yeah, they're going to have to work on getting other fans to do their bit.
rather than bitching about it, why not form alliances and make compromises (to me, this is what life is about)? *nods* And to be fair, I think it's going to be impossible to accurately represent fandom. I think it's impossible to accurately represent just the SGA fandom, because fandom means something different to each person, but we can still do our best to make it as accurate as possible. I mean, they want to record our history (which I think is rather important due to the nature of the internet; what's here one day is gone the next), you can never be perfect with history, there are always biases, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't *try*. And if you're so worried about being misrepresented, then *speak*up*.
But I think that fandom has always had a tendency to divide into camps (and this is not a fandom thing per se - it's a human thing) So true. Although you're right, it's nice when we can keep the wank out of it. It's also nice when people are actually willing to *listen* if they are engaging in a discussion. OMG, when reading the 600+ post on scalzi's post there were some people I just wanted to yell "Shut up already and give up. You are obviously not listening to person A and instead choose to continue saying the exact same points, in more and more derogatory ways!" And it was seen on both sides. Although I think the ones I noticed the most was a couple guys on the anti-side, and one guy on the pro-side who the other pro people didn't realize were on their side and kept trying to stomp on his comments.
I agree. I think it is unfair to expect many things from OTW right away. Like any project - fandom or otherwise - things get more complex and offer more breadth and depth over time. Actually, I was quite surprised to see that they hope to have the archive up by this summer. That's not a lot of time to develop a huge program like an archive, especially not if they put some of the features in that people were talking about in the early days. Colour me impressed. Although, I'm slightly surprised that they're planning on opening the archive first, the academic journal last, and the wiki sometime in the "first half of 2008". I would think a wiki would be rather easy to set up in the first place. I mean, it's open source software. They might want to design a pretty skin and set up some rules, but I would have thought it could go up almost immediately. Also, it would be a good way of keeping fans interested in the project, because there's something *everyone* can work on, and they can start right away.
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Well, to be fair, a wiki is only as good as what it's members put into it. If it was created by a close group of due South, SPN, and HP fans, then yeah, they're going to have to work on getting other fans to do their bit.
rather than bitching about it, why not form alliances and make compromises (to me, this is what life is about)?
*nods* And to be fair, I think it's going to be impossible to accurately represent fandom. I think it's impossible to accurately represent just the SGA fandom, because fandom means something different to each person, but we can still do our best to make it as accurate as possible. I mean, they want to record our history (which I think is rather important due to the nature of the internet; what's here one day is gone the next), you can never be perfect with history, there are always biases, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't *try*. And if you're so worried about being misrepresented, then *speak*up*.
But I think that fandom has always had a tendency to divide into camps (and this is not a fandom thing per se - it's a human thing)
So true. Although you're right, it's nice when we can keep the wank out of it. It's also nice when people are actually willing to *listen* if they are engaging in a discussion. OMG, when reading the 600+ post on
I agree. I think it is unfair to expect many things from OTW right away. Like any project - fandom or otherwise - things get more complex and offer more breadth and depth over time.
Actually, I was quite surprised to see that they hope to have the archive up by this summer. That's not a lot of time to develop a huge program like an archive, especially not if they put some of the features in that people were talking about in the early days. Colour me impressed. Although, I'm slightly surprised that they're planning on opening the archive first, the academic journal last, and the wiki sometime in the "first half of 2008". I would think a wiki would be rather easy to set up in the first place. I mean, it's open source software. They might want to design a pretty skin and set up some rules, but I would have thought it could go up almost immediately. Also, it would be a good way of keeping fans interested in the project, because there's something *everyone* can work on, and they can start right away.