I definitely draw a line between things that are okay in fic and things that are okay outside of fic (mostly age and non-con) Yeah, non-con was the main point I forgot while writing this post up. Because I often find it sexy in fic (esp. Dub-con) I can't find it acceptable in RL.
rape included things like Person A having sex with Person B even when Person A doesn't want to just to keep the peace of make Person B happy at his or her own expense. I think anyone being harassed for sex after saying no, no matter how mildly, is intolerable. See, I don't think I could ever say in RL that what you described is rape. Sure, if that's all your sex life is, or if your doing it, because when things aren't peaceful your household is in a really bad place, but overall? There's this one SGA fic out there, where John is mooning over Rodney, and thinks he's going to find some girl and get married, and when thinking about it, John thinks something along the line of "Rodney deserves a wife that will have sex with him, even if she's beat and would really rather sleep" and then later switches it so it's Rodney having sex even though he's beat and would rather sleep, and I can't help but find that thought sweet. I'm sure most people in the world have had sex with their partner, even though they'd rather not because it would make their partner happy. Also, saying things like above, well, it kind of cheapens the word rape when it can be applied to most people out there. Trying to say that "Oh honey, not tonight, well, ok" is equal to someone who has been brutally raped against their will is not right. Were you around for the radical feminist wank? Amoung other things, the feminist was saying exactly that, and someone on my flist made a really angry post. She had been raped repeatedly by a family member when she was 8, it's not fair to her and others to apply the same word and all that it means to "I just don't feel like it tonight, well fine, I guess a quick one". I'm not saying it's never rape, but I certainly don't think you can make the generalization that it is.
Re: Morality in fic
Yeah, non-con was the main point I forgot while writing this post up. Because I often find it sexy in fic (esp. Dub-con) I can't find it acceptable in RL.
rape included things like Person A having sex with Person B even when Person A doesn't want to just to keep the peace of make Person B happy at his or her own expense. I think anyone being harassed for sex after saying no, no matter how mildly, is intolerable.
See, I don't think I could ever say in RL that what you described is rape. Sure, if that's all your sex life is, or if your doing it, because when things aren't peaceful your household is in a really bad place, but overall?
There's this one SGA fic out there, where John is mooning over Rodney, and thinks he's going to find some girl and get married, and when thinking about it, John thinks something along the line of "Rodney deserves a wife that will have sex with him, even if she's beat and would really rather sleep" and then later switches it so it's Rodney having sex even though he's beat and would rather sleep, and I can't help but find that thought sweet. I'm sure most people in the world have had sex with their partner, even though they'd rather not because it would make their partner happy.
Also, saying things like above, well, it kind of cheapens the word rape when it can be applied to most people out there. Trying to say that "Oh honey, not tonight, well, ok" is equal to someone who has been brutally raped against their will is not right. Were you around for the radical feminist wank? Amoung other things, the feminist was saying exactly that, and someone on my flist made a really angry post. She had been raped repeatedly by a family member when she was 8, it's not fair to her and others to apply the same word and all that it means to "I just don't feel like it tonight, well fine, I guess a quick one". I'm not saying it's never rape, but I certainly don't think you can make the generalization that it is.