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So, I've spent most of the day reading up on what people are saying about the OTW are saying. Mostly from non-fandom people, and it's kind of making me want to shoot things, but I was wondering:
What do you think about the OTW? Would you like an archive? A written fannish history? A wiki (OMG, I can't tell you how much I'd like a wiki for fandom, although I can see it being vandalized a lot)? Do you think it's a good idea to have a legal defense fund? If the OTW were ever to go to court, would you support them?
I'm planning on making a post sometime about how I feel about it, but I'm really curious as to what other people on my flist think about it. I think so far only one person on my flist has really written about it, but I spent a couple months away so could have totally missed something.
Also, I am having a bitch of a time working on a mysql database, any one know enough about setting up eFiction to want to help?
What do you think about the OTW? Would you like an archive? A written fannish history? A wiki (OMG, I can't tell you how much I'd like a wiki for fandom, although I can see it being vandalized a lot)? Do you think it's a good idea to have a legal defense fund? If the OTW were ever to go to court, would you support them?
I'm planning on making a post sometime about how I feel about it, but I'm really curious as to what other people on my flist think about it. I think so far only one person on my flist has really written about it, but I spent a couple months away so could have totally missed something.
Also, I am having a bitch of a time working on a mysql database, any one know enough about setting up eFiction to want to help?
Re: OTW Part 1b
Personally, I think that working in a RL mode is more important at the moment, and I just wish that fandom would realize that they need to.
Part of me says "right on!" to this, because yeah - squeeing fangirls don't really win hearts and minds.
But part of me...well, really, it's that space between "people shouldn't judge, so I'll act as if they don't", and "people do judge, so I'll adjust my behavior". Fandom judges, fandom wanks, fandom pries and questions and pokes at things and demands to know exactly who's trying to capitalize on them. Fandom is unlikely to shut up and just accept OTW knows what they're doing, whether they should or not, particularly if it looks like OTW's painting a big bullseye.
You are right, really - if OTW expects to deal with Real World things, it must cater to what the Real World expects. But consider the fandomers who don't want fandom to be adapted to the Real World, who will think that's what OTW's after - they're not gonna listen to "but but but the Real World".
Every group has it’s bumps, and hurdles to get over, the OTW just needs to be given a chance to try.
Most definitely.
Re: OTW Part 1b
Ahh, I was thinking back to the chat where someone complained that the OTW is based too much on LJ, and that they should move off of LJ sice so many people are pissed with it :P
when I talked about them not stepping into discussions I was specifically talking about discussions in the actual
Yeah, I was a little surprised that they had a chat instead of just opening a thread on the LJ. But I think part of it is having everyone sit down at once to talk about this stuff, and also, I think the same questions are being asked over and over again, even when they do answer. Which is why I think they need a better FAQ.
But part of me...well, really, it's that space between "people shouldn't judge, so I'll act as if they don't", and "people do judge, so I'll adjust my behavior". Fandom judges, fandom wanks, fandom pries and questions and pokes at things and demands to know exactly who's trying to capitalize on them. Fandom is unlikely to shut up and just accept OTW knows what they're doing, whether they should or not, particularly if it looks like OTW's painting a big bullseye.
Yeah, but in the vein, since there are always going to be people demanding information, no matter how open they are; people saying it sucks, no matter how good they are (and people loving it no matter how bad they are) I can see why they might choose the path that gets things *done* rather than having the most open communication, since it'll work out more if they can *show* us they can do this rather than *tell* us.