Numb3rs

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Ok, first off, I want to wish geeklite a belated birthday. I so meant to make this post last night, but I fell asleep. :-/ I hope you had an amazing day!

Next, I know I'm totally late on this, but I want to talk about Colby and the Janus list.


Gah! This was such an amazing episode! When I finished watching that episode I realized that that was one of the most effective season finales I've ever seen. I can only think of one other season finale like it (The Buffy one where she killed Angel). It wasn't quite a cliffhanger, because the problem was resolved, but it just left everything so broken. I can't wait until the new season starts. *whines* I'm going to be spending waaayyyy too much time thinking about this ep. Also I was really impressed by this ender, because the finale for season 2 sucked so, so much. I'm glad they were able o make this one much more interesting.

The thing is, not for one minute did I actually believe Colby's been a spy for 2 years. I have a feeling he was probably pulled in by the Americans when they discovered Dwayne, because:
1) What are the chances they both happened to work for the Chinese. I mean of all the governments out there... It would be more likely if it were a Middle Eastern government, because at least they both fought over there, but the Chinese? I mean we know how Dwayne got involved, but Colby? His only connection is Dwayne.

2) If Colby was a spy on the same side as Dwayne they had some mighty weird private conversations. And Colby's must be a pretty good actor to look so surprised and hurt over Dwayne being a traitor. I mean honestly, if they both knew (and if it were true I can't believe they wouldn't at the very least have suspicions) they might not have come right out with their secret traitor hand shake, but I think they probably would have spoken in a few more double entendre's.

3) If Dwayne *knew* that Colby was a turn coat, I think he would have turned him in when Colby cornered him. He was so upset and angry when it happened I can't believe he wouldn't lash out. I mean, I know he knew by this episode, but I bet he probably learned while imprisoned and decided to sit on it, because he was calmer and already caught, he knew he'd have to use that info to his advantage, but I doubt he'd be thinking that clearly when he was first arrested.


Edit: Obviously there are spoilers in this post and the comments for Janus List. In the comments though we now have some vague cast spoilers for season 4 (of both Numb3rs and SGA). Please don't spoil me people. I can't handle it! (Ok, I *can* but it'll piss me off). If you *are* looking for spoilers for season 4 there's a link in the comments to somewhere where you can find more info.

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Crap, I pressed post by accident.

David looked so crushed when he found out. Poor him.
OMG he was *crying*! Are you a slasher? Because I've slashed David and Colby for a while now, but that moment just *made* them for me. Oh god. I think it's going to take David a while to get over this, even if/when it comes to light that Colby was never a traitor. I think David will feel betrayed regardless because Colby never confided in him.

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No, I'm not really a slasher, but if I were I definitely would slash David/Colby. They're just great together. And I agree, it'll take some time till David get over it. But Don probably too. More therapy sessions to come. ;D

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Oh god, probably my favourite David/Colby moment before this ep was when they were at that Chinese stripper joint and Colby says something like "God, we're the only white guys here" and David's liek " o_O; ...yeah...." They just play off each other so well.

Don on the other hand. I mean Don's my favourite, he's really the guy I watch the show for, but so often he'll surprise me. Most of the time he's this great hard working guy who loves his job and family, but other times? He's a complete ass hole. All of his actions toward Colby this episode seemed so wrong to me. I mean he didn't hesitate to think of Colby as a traitor. And at the end of the show, not one word about Colby or his deception, instead the Eps were all upset about this agent that time will forget? That doesn't fly with me. My presonal theory at the moment (I have a lot of them if you didn't notice? :P Me? Spending too much time thinking about this episode? No!) is that Don knew about Colby being a double agent, and he knows that Colby's on the good side. That's why he was acting like an ass hole, that's why he wasn't upset. Although I must admit, of all my theories, in my heart I have a feeling that this is wrong, because the writers have written Don as an asshole before with no troubles. I really *want* this theory to be true though...

[kukalaka.livejournal.com]

that Don knew about Colby being a double agent
You know what? I had that thought too in the very beginning, when I thought about the first episode with Dwayne. Butbthen I abandoned it for some reason. My theory for Don being an asshole was that he was mad at himself for trusting Colby after the first Dwayne incident. But I like the first theory better.

and Colby says something like "God, we're the only white guys here" and David's liek " o_O; ...yeah...."
That scene was so great. But I also love their little jokes that always Colby ends up chasing after the suspects. :D

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I could see it going either way. It just gets me sometimes when the writers aren't consistent with Don's character, because there have been a few times where Don has done something that makes me not like him, and then he goes back to being nice Don, and the just don't seem to mesh in my mind. Runon sentence much? :P

And Colby is so great. I find it funny that he was the one doing all the running across town in that Don-at-the-psychiatrist ep when he's the one always complaining about running. Did he in one ep tell a perp that he'd shoot him in the back, and then once he got cuffs on him he goes, "I wouldn't realle have, I just didn't feel like running today" :P Oh Colby. I think I'm going to have to "force" myself to sit through all the eps with Colby in it, and come up with a list of Best Colby Lines. :D

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because there have been a few times where Don has done something that makes me not like him
Yes, there have been some things that I didn't like either. But it would be boring if we only see nice!Don.

"I wouldn't realle have, I just didn't feel like running today"
I saw that episode recently and was all LMAO. I love his humour. I need to finish my re-watching of all episodes. 30 episodes left. And writing down Colby quotes is a cool idea. I should do that too. I had a lot of fun making notes for Northern Exposure.

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Yes, there have been some things that I didn't like either. But it would be boring if we only see nice!Don.
But the thing is, I feel like you could have a not nice!Don without making him so... out of character. I mean, sometimes he's not nice, like when he had Ian punch that kid in 302 to try and save Megan. That I could work with, it give Don a dark edge, it makes him less than perfect. That didn't actually bother me that much, because I can see it in his character. The times that really bug me though, is when he's mean to those he cares about. I mean I know everyone has bad days and what not, but there are sometimes when he's a downright bastard to Charlie. Or how he felt nothing to discover that Colby was a traitor. I mean, *I'd* be hurt if I found out the lunch lady at my work was a traitor, and I hard ever speak to her, but someone I've trusted with my life (and in their line of work, you know that kind of trust has to be there)? That kind of betrayal *has* to leave something. Maybe make you question the loyalty of the others, maybe make him even worse for shouldering all the burdens. I hope to *god* that they have something in season 4 that covers this. Either that Don was in on it, or some kind of issues that pop up, because otherwise it's just not consistent.

I saw that episode recently and was all LMAO. I love his humour.
He's such a classic straight man. I mean, I think it'd be fun to see the blooper reels, since I know I'd have trouble saying some of those lines with a straight face. But he generally looks so serious when he says these things it just makes if even more funny.

And writing down Colby quotes is a cool idea. I should do that too.
Run with it, run like the wind! Because knowing me, I wont ever actually get around to it :P

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But he generally looks so serious when he says these things it just makes if even more funny.
That is actually the funny thing that he keeps a straight face. I'd like to see the bloopers too.

Run with it, run like the wind! Because knowing me, I wont ever actually get around to it :P
I watched to episodes yesterday, but didn't write anything down. I'm not sure I get around to it too. But when I watched Northern Exposure afterwards, I made lots of notes again. Don is so overly cute there. :D

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I'd like to see the bloopers too.
I think I'm going to have to buy the DVDs so that I can watch the extras.

[kukalaka.livejournal.com]

The dvds are so expensive here (though still a lot cheaper than those for SGA). :( I wanted to look through the internet if I can find them somewhere, but always forgot.

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The dvds are so expensive here
Well if I get around to buying them, I'll rip the extras and put them up on my webpage so you can have a chance to watch them :)

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That sounds great. :)